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bizarre but convincing

14:56 i love that the brass just has a march of their own, completely disconnected from the rest 😂

Was für ein schräges Zeug .... 😅 🤣 🤮

I'm pretty sure some of these art twits, who praise a messy splash of paint on a canvas, would block their ears and complain about the music of Ives; he's that far ahead of the game.

Ives doesn't seem so radical these days. In fact many of his works are quite entertaining. All the symphonies are worth a listen.

I love this symphony and have listened to it many times. Your previous performance was great and this version is also super cool. thank you!

Antony Hermus and the NNO superb in Ives. A really great and unforgetable performance!!!

It's many years since I've heard this amazing and brilliant work - easier to follow having prior familiarity, and, of course, now being able to see the separate groups of musicians/singers. Throughout we hear Ives' trademarks - different layers playing seemingly different material, with clashing tempi, keys etc. I reveal my age when I seem to recall having, probably an LP, of the first ever performance of this, with Stokoski at the helm of several conductors. [Yes, I've made one or two edits.] All of which we see here, with the different threads being performed by easily seen "groups". The Prelude is disarming with only mild hints of what is to come. Ives' sense of humor becomes clear in the tumult of the 2nd movement, with performance groups seeming to try and put others "off their game", although they almost come together in places, particularly with brief quotations of a tune that appears in more than one of the composers works, "Columbia, Gem of the Ocean' (if I have the name correct). The 3rd movement seems to bring a breath of cleansing air, with that beautiful (and very familiar, but here the name escapes me totally) melody introduced by the strings. But it hints at not becoming too complacent, coming to a peak with the (tracker, I think) pipe organ riding over all. However, it doesn't get too challenging, as our reserves are needed for the multi-layered finale. All gradually fades into the distance, but not before Ives' musical threads in competition, again display the need for multiple conductor's. Novel touches include weird tones from one of the earliest electronic instruments, the Ondes Martenot emerging from within the mix (there are few of the original instruments still existing, but a slightly modernized, and more capable, version is used - still difficult to play. Sorry, I had to add this as it's a fascinating instrument, worth looking up, and it's used in a number of film scores). In all, an extremely welcome performance of this little heard milestone in 20th century music. And I can't imagine a better performance than this which, in addition, is imaginatively staged. (Ives' use of apparent chaos was well ahead of his time, with the US sadly in an even more chaotic state!) My grateful thanks to all who joined together (together?) to share this special event with the world. I have now found several performances on RUclips, but in my humble(?) opinion, this really stands out. NB. THERE WAS ANOTHER CONCERT FOLLOWING THIS, TITLE "IVES' 'UNANSWERED QUESTION'" IT WAS SPECTACULAR AND FUN - BUT IT'S GONE - WHY?

What a masterpiece! Great interpretation!

WOW!!!!! Amazin , just as good as anything we could do here in the US. Thanks!!!!!!!😊

Amazing performance of this incredible symphony!!!

I guess you can't accuse Ives of plagiarism.

33:47 ok who's casio watch was that..

Super mooi!

Schitterend!

4:00 Messiane was so clearly influenced by some of Ives' music.

이 음악엔 혼돈속에 정화로움이 있고 시벨리우스의 그것도 있습니다...❤ 아침을 깨워 주셔서 감사 합니다...😊

thanks to spellchecker (or censor?) - read abominable

abdominal camera work

Almost better than the original! Very smooth!

Cholera. To jest genialne.

Geweldig, Ralph. Genoten!

I listened a lot to Keith Jarrett's Parish Concert... This is a nice introduction to the Köln Concert.. wonderful performance - thank you

Kind of "Philipglassian". Nice...but I'd rather return to "your" Tiensuu...

somebody put the time stamps for the different movements. I do not feel like doing it. Movement II 3:57

Ein Meisterwerk!

12:54

4:47. Wow!! Just discovered another spectral composer to explore! My day is made!! (Later) Further into it now, and very much hoping you'll make a commercial recording. This is a stunning work and I love your performance.

Here’s the most important composition of the 20th century.

First time hearing any of his work, in fact, first time hearing Ives' name. All I can say is that it is wonderful, and as someone whose favourite works include Rite of Spring and the Miraculous Mandarin, I feel like Charles Ives Symphony No. 4 will also become one of my favourites.

i just love that trombone solo at the end---it almost sounds a bit like the national anthem?

ah, that chorale fugue---sublime. Seems like it opens up vast spaces and distances, and the past...

Wat een fantastisch stuk! En wat een geweldige uitvoering!

That blonde-haired woman, third from the left, second row back. I'm going on 68 years old, and I swear that woman has been in every chorus I've ever seen. Oh, and yeah, Ives was a genius.

I’m from Winnsboro and that’s Not the Winnsboro cotton mill blues

My beloved father was an insurance man whose eldest (me) probably wasn't quite what he was expecting but who rolled with it better than any father could have. When I was a teenager, I would often take a train into the city to escape the dreary, oppressive suburban town we lived in. I'd head for the museums and chi-chi department stores, and always stopped at the 2 music stores where I'd explore for hours. I'd meet dad at his office and he'd take me out to dinner before driving us home. He always wanted to know what I'd done all day, and asked about the music I had bought (even though he really had no feel for any type of elevated artistic expression) and one day I told him about a string quartet that looked interesting to me which was written by a composer I'd never heard of named Charles Ives. He told me that there was a very influential insurance man with the same name who had written a treatise on estate planning that is still required study. It was a while before I found out it was the same person. Dad and I didn't have a lot in common but we loved each other all the same. Ives seemed to be the intersection of our interests and my love of Ives's music has become conflated with my love of my father. I hear the music when I walk around our small Midwesterners town. I think of my father when I hear or perform Ives's music. Whenever I go into the Ives studio that is now installed at the American Academy of Arts and Letters I find it difficult to master my emotions, especially when I see the cornet that belonged to Ives's father, who seemed to be equally loved by his son.

I think i like it. Has been a long time since an Ives work captured me. And though i am not totally convinced yet i may keep it in the rotation.

THE MASTER SYMPHONIST !

From Henrietta Bosmans I like a lot her sonata for cello and piano...it is wonderful...I listen to this concertino for the first time and i find a little bit Ravel's atmosphere at the very beginning....Bosmans has often a music in which a lot of energy circulates and dramatic intensity... beautiful performance....A Dutch jewel ..

In the slow movement he quotes Brahms and all fits in. An extraordently composer. I remember back in the early 60th we had a conducter, wich name I unfortunately forgot, he introduced us to this fabuolous music. I am still gratefull.

The one time I heard it live, student performers in Bloomington, IN, I was struck by the way that the sound masses are built out of components each of which is quite simple in itself.

Good lord... I want to like Carter... he is inspiring but the big pieces are such a thankless racket...

Love the close-up shots of the piano dampers and hammers. Reminds you of the factory machines being represented in this music. Really nice camera work! And really nice playing!

This caught me by surprise. I was streaming via autoplay having selected Carter's 1961 Double Concerto to start. Now I have listened to a good deal of Ives but there is no one work of his that I listen to repeatedly in the past few years. I have even cast shade on Ives wrt the dates of composition of his works given that he took advantage of the awkward fact of his pieces not being performed. And thereby reworked his compositions but didnt change the date of composition or note that he made revisions. All that said, this is a bit of a masterpiece.

Why is there a Theremin in the last movement? Ives didn't write a Theremin part.

This is amazing... it sort of makes me think of the Bioshock Infinite soundtrack.. is there a name for the type/genre?

Mvt 2: taking shrooms before the state championship game was a bad idea!!!

Incredible. He captures life. All the flux, confusion and joy.

This music is impossible, here's why 00:00 - stunning beginning, it gets no better than this. 01:22 - tonality comes in the form of a beautiful choral piece. 04:24 - how is this texture of layers of music even imaginable? 13:55 - and this beautiful ensemble? Why can I hear Rhapsody in Blue? 16:22 - after all the polytonality, polyrhythms, polytemporality and polycrhomatism, this beautiful fugue stands out in an indescribable manner. 25:24 - Fazıl Say's Universe Symphony, almost one century before? Also throughout the piece you can clearly hear the Concord Sonata in the background. And that enormous crescendo? Unreal. 31:46 - there it is, the so-called "ether organ". Never heard that so low-pitched, what a beautiful sensation it is. My God, and that chorus in the end? Everything vanishes, and it's the drums that have that duty.

Utterly monumental work......What else is there to say???